Comments on: Is IT work true engineering or just plumbing?

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By: ErikEngbrecht

ErikEngbrecht — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:36:38 +0000

IT work falls into a few categories, roughly in order of the relative sizes of staff (I’m going to use auto analogies):
1. Non-technical such as procurement, some project management, etc
2. Service Technician (e.g. Jiffy Lube)
3. Valet Parking
4. Mechanic
5. Engineer

Studying computer science or similar only really helps with #5, which might be 1 out of 100 IT people…maybe fewer. I’m very tempted to say that software engineering is not a normal IT function. Back in the day IT kept the computers running, and part of that was writing and maintaining software. Today it’s just yelling at vendors.

The problem is that the average “business person” can’t really tell the difference among those listed above.

By: Bob_Gneu

Bob_Gneu — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:18:43 +0000

Working IT has been a real boon in my bonnet. I am 25, and even I get the response that the gentleman you quoted does. It is, however, my experience that its not necessarily the age they are arguing with. It is their own inability to learn anything new in the last year when others have taken it into their lives to learn a new language or methodology every couple months. Resume bloat is something that I have been fighting since i started with this craziness and something I continue to have to deal with.

Regardless, you write a beautiful blog sir, and i will continue to follow it.